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Joseph Anderson, Berkeley, CA May 3, 2012, 17:28
Addendum to my previous post:

The *U.S.* (at mostly the behest of the American Zionist Jewish neocons in our government and Israel, as every American president has to go pay homage at the annual national AIPAC convention and, upon AIPAC’s warmongering rallies, promise to attack, or *further* arm Israel to attack, some Middle Eastern country) -- through the U.S.’s previous semi-genocidal sanctions against Iraq (primarily then aimed at the Iraqi civilian and public health infrastructure) and through its wars against Iraq -- has undoubtedly, horrendously killed (using phosphorus, napalm and cluster bombs) and otherwise caused the deaths of many many more Iraqis -- and has refugeed millions more Iraqis -- has caused even much more untold grievous suffering -- than *Saddam* -- the brutal *dictator* -- *himself* did.

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Joseph Anderson, Berkeley, CA May 3, 2012, 16:56
RE: Jim Evans in Worcester
"Thanks for asking the questions.."

Thank you for providing your answers.

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JE: "After Iraq got graduated to democracy (1990-present) 6 millions Iraqis were KILLED and standard of living is 5 times lower now than it was during the bath socialist Saddam Hussein times."

First of all, the U.S. government never said that it was going to Iraq to establish a democracy. The U.S. govt’s *stated* reason was that it went to Iraq to find and destroy Saddam’s WMD’s and to commit regime change. Well, we know that the first reason was false all along. We know that the first reason was just the pretext for the 2nd reason. And the 2nd reason was not to establish a democracy, but to establish a regime that would do what the U.S. says! Besides, the U.S. never supported some Iraqi dissident pro-democracy movement. And we know that the U.S. once greatly supported Saddam dictatorship.

And if democracy in the Middle East is so important to the U.S. govt, it could start with its closest allies! First, the U.S. could start with *ISRAEL* -- A *RACIST*, SEMI-THEOCRATIC, *NON-NATIVE* (AT *THAT*!), IDEOLOGICALLY JEWISH-SUPREMACIST, ZIONIST, APARTHEID STATE)!

Then the U.S. could move on to changing -- regime change -- the Saudi (family) Muslim fundamentalist dictatorship and gender apartheid state -- the next most important U.S. ally in the Middle East. And then the U.S. could move on to changing -- regime change -- the Kuwaiti (family) Islamic fundamentalist dictatorship and gender apartheid state. The U.S. could then move on to Jordan (where I *think* the U.S. has renditioned one or more innocent people). And then the U.S. could move on to where the U.S. 5th Fleet is based, the Bahraini (family) Islamic fundamentalist dictatorship and gender apartheid state. The U.S. *did* change a democracy into a decades-long *dictatorship* in Iran in 1953, when the U.S. overthrew Mossadeq (who was democratic *and* a true learned man). The U.S. has established &/or supported *dicatorships* and *authoritarian* regimes and assassinated *democratic* leaders and political activists all over the 3rd World in the 20th & 21st century. (Right after WWII the U.S. initiated dividing and established a 40-year series of dictators in South Korea.) Ahhh, but they were *our* dictators who did what *we* said. (The countries where, after WWII, the U.S. established and supported a "bourgeois democracy" -- like in Japan and West Germany -- were (before they were destroyed by war) actually technologically and economically ’*1st* World’ countries with a, previously, relatively large, educated middle-class that would not have long stood for a foreign imposed dictatorship.

SO, YOU SEE, THE U.S. DOESN’T REALLY CARE ABOUT DEMOCRACY, OR ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM, OR 3RD WORLD WOMEN’S RIGHTS (NOT EVEN *HILLARY* REALLY CARES), OR EVEN TERRORISM!

PRO-ISRAEL JEWS AND THEIR ACTIVIST POLITICAL ALLIES TOLD THE WORLD’S LIBERALS/PROGRESSIVES/LEFTISTS THAT IT WAS REALLY "A WAR FOR OIL"!

BUT THAT WAS REALLY A DIVERSIONARY CLAIM TO DIVERT THE WORLD’S LIBERALS/PROGRESSIVES/LEFTISTS FROM LOOKING AT ISRAEL’S ROLE IN THE IRAQ WAR.

THE U.S. WAS NOT DEPENDENT ON, AND DOESN’T EVEN GET MOST OF ITS FOREIGN OIL FROM THE MIDDLE EAST -- THE U.S. GETS MOST OF ITS FOREIGN OIL FROM AFRICA (ESPECIALLY NIGERIA) AND SOUTH AMERICA (AND MOST OF THAT, IN FACT, FROM *VENEZUELA*)!

NOW, ALL THOSE "CONSPIRACY" STORIES ABOUT THE U.S. PLANNING TO CONTROL THE WORLD’S OIL SUPPLY -- ESPECIALLY TO STANGLE CHINA -- IS PURE NONSENSE!

THE U.S. CAN’T EVEN CONTROL *AFGHANISTAN* AND SOME RAG-TAG, BUT HIGHLY DEDICATED GUERRILLA MILITIA -- THAT HAS *NO* FLEETS OF FIGHTER JETS, BATTLE SHIPS, AND INTERCONTINENTAL NUCLEAR MISSILES!! -- LET ALONE NOT EVEN A COUNTRY THAT’S FINANCING OUR DEBT AND MAKING MUCH OF THE AMERICAN WORKING-MIDDLE-CLASS EVEN POSSIBLE!

SO HOW IS THE U.S. EVER SUPPOSED TO STRANGLE CHINA? (WE MIGHT BE NEEDING THEIR SPACE SHIPS SOON -- PERHAPS THEN MORE AFFORDABLE THAN THE RUSSIAN ONES, OR ANYTHING THAT WE CAN BUILD -- TO SEND OUR ASTRONAUTS AND CARGO UP IN SPACE.)

I’M SURE THAT JULIAN HAS, LONG AGO, DISCOVERED SECRET DOCUMENTS THAT DIRECTLY POINT TO ISRAEL’S INVOLVEMENT IN THE IRAQ WAR.

ISRAEL PROVIDED MUCH/MOST OF THE FALSE INTELLIGENCE CLAIMING THAT SADDAM HAD WMD’S -- NOT ONLY NUCLEAR, BUT ALSO BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL (AND THE LAST CATEGORY PROBABLY *SOLD* TO SADDAM BY THE *WESTERN IMPERIALISTS* FOR USE IN IRAQ’S WAR AGAINST IRAN, BUT NOTHING SUBSTANTIALLY LEFT)!

OF COURSE, JULIAN PROBABLY HAS DISCOVERED DOCUMENTS POINTING TO *ISRAEL’S* ROLE IN 9-11.

I MEAN, EVEN THE NEW YORK TIMES AND SEVERAL OTHER NORTHEAST COAST PAPERS, DID THE STORIES ABOUT "THE DANCING ISRAELIS" -- THE ISRAELI AGENTS (POSING AS MOVING COMPANY WORKERS) CAUGHT, ACROSS THE HUDSON RIVER, IN NEW JERSEY, LITERALLY DANCING AS THE WTC TWIN TOWERS BURNED AND LATER COLLAPSED.

(Those agents were caught, picked up, arrested, and, once it was determined who they were, were then soon quietly spirited out of the country back to Israel.)

AND IN THE HISTORICAL PAST, WHEN ISRAELI AGENTS BOMBED BRITISH FACILITIES

--LIKE THE KING DAVID HOTEL (THE ORIGINAL ’OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING’, BEFORE THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING

--OR EVEN AMERICAN DIPLOMATIC FACILITIES

--LIKE THE LAVON AFFAIR

--THOSE ISRAELI AGENTS *ALWAYS* POSED AS *ARABS*

--OR WERE GOING TO LET THE U.S. *THINK* IT WAS ARABS (LIKE WHEN ISRAEL SANK, OR ALMOST SANK, THE USS LIBERTY, BACK IN 1967, AND KILLED MANY OF ITS SAILORS).

BUT, I’M SURE THAT ISRAEL HAS ALREADY TOLD ASSANGE THAT IF HE RELEASES ANY DOCUMENTS VERY/TRULY DAMAGING TO ISRAEL, THEN ISRAEL WILL *ASSASSINATE* HIM -- A *VERY* CREDIBLE AND HISTORICALLY *DEMONSTRATED* THREAT.

*** NOTE: OF *ALLL* THE VERY DAMAGING FOREIGN POLICY DOCUMENTS THAT WIKILEAKS HAS DISCOVERED AND RELEASED, ABOUT THE U.S. AND OTHER COUNTRIES, ASSANGE HAS *NEVER* RELEASED *ANY* DOCUMENTS -- NOT A *SINGLE* ONE -- VERY/TRULY DAMAGING TO *ISRAEL*. ***

*** THAT OMISSION WAS ’THE DOG THAT DIDN’T BARK’. ***

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A SUDDEN U.S. PANG AND *DEMAND* FOR "DEMOCRACY" IN THE ECNOOMIC &/OR POLITICAL 3RD WORLD MEANS:

(1) BEFORE AN OVERTHROW it’s U.S. code word for the U.S. pursuing "regime change";

(2) AFTER AN OVERTHROW it’s U.S. code word for U.S.-imposed "ecnomic neoliberalism" and "structural adjustment" -- in other words "give us [the U.S.] exploitative penetration into your industries (even if it’s just mining, let alone consumer products) and markets (including agricultural markets so that a country that could once feed itself can no longer do so because many/most of its native farmers have been economically driven off the land by cheaper U.S./Western imported foods or seeds now owned by Monsanto); take on our predatory IMF/WB loan shark loans for an obscenely exorbitant return and so that you unquestionably stay economically dependent on the U.S. and our Western allies; get rid of most or all of your social welfare programs so that we [the U.S.] can better exploit your labor population; sell off or privitize all your important govt’l social institutions and natural resources (even your water!) to our corporations; and whatever other economic rapes the U.S. and its major Western allies can commit.

It’s morbidly funny: there was one country [I can’t remember which one off-hand] where, when the U.S. established & supported a dictatorship for *decades* that was finally overthrown by the people of that country, the U.S. was then, publicly, all worried about and demanded that the people establish a democracy! "We just want them to establish a democracy!", Secretary of State Hillary Clinton insisted. U.S. foreign policy has long been ’one *sick* puppy’.

Besides the terrorism that the U.S. has committed itself over more than the past century of American imperialism, and still commits, the U.S. has long supported terrorism against Cuba (even harbored and protected right-wing Cuban exile terrorists in the U.S.), supported the Nicaraguan Contras terrorists, supports terrorist groups against Iran, the U.S. supported and *armed* the Taliban when the U.S. turned them against the Soviets, and, of course, the U.S. supports the *official* former European terrorist organization members who have become govt officials and even heads of state in Israel, and the U.S. even trained state terrorists at the School of the Americas.

*BUT*, JE, YOU NEVER DIRECTLY ANSWERED MY QUESTION:

“Don’t the people of the Middle East have a right to graduate from any dictatorships (again, usually U.S.-supported) to even a "bourgeois democracy"?

The U.S. has established a multi-religious sectarian government in Iraq -- in a society that was not sectarian before the U.S. got there. Iraq had religiously and ethnically mixed cities, mixed neighborhoods, mixed *families*, and even mixed *marriages*, and even mixed *individuals*, before the U.S. promoted ethnic and *religious* sectarianism -- a typical colonial/neocolonial divide-&-conquer/-suppress stratagem -- on Iraq -- especially in how the U.S. set up Iraq’s government. Imperialist, colonial, and neocolonial powers always put an ethnic or religious *minority* regime (or family dictatorship) in charge over the majority population, or create a geographically &/or ethnically/religiously divided and intra-antagonistic society (the British did this *everywhere*, and it became an old saying, "Divided by the British!"), so that the new government is dependent on the imperialists to stay in power -- or to more easily exploit the geographcially broken pieces (like in Yugoslavia, a rare European victim of Euro-Western imperialism, or to exploit mineral resources like the oil in places like the new "South Sudan") -- or just out of spite to leave a mess -- as if to say, ’See, you primitives can’t govern yourselves without us!’

Besides, the U.S. (and UK) killed LOTS of people in Iraq -- remember, over a half-million *children* alone(?), aside from those with curable or maintainable illnesses, aside from those with compromised health (like the aged) -- probably, all told, easily over a million peole -- with the U.S.-initiated semi-genocidal sanctions against the *people* of Iraq (the regime did just fine!) -- even *before* Saddam was overthrown by the U.S.

AND WHY WAS SADDAM OVERTHROWN? FOR *ISRAEL* -- SINCE THE IRAQ-IRAN WAR WAS FINALLY OVER AND THE U.S. HAD NO MORE NEED FOR SADDAM, ONCE HE WAS NO LONGER KILLING *OTHER* BROWN PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

*ISRAEL* WANTED _NO POTENTIAL RIVALS_ IN THE MIDDLE EAST. AND THE ONLY COUNTRIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST THAT HAVE *ALL* OF,

(1) LOTS OF OIL (SO IT’S ECONOMICALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT),

(2) LOTS OF WATER (WATER IS *VERY* IMPORTANT IN THE MIDDLE EAST),

(3) LOTS OF LAND (AND IRAN IS VERY EASILY DEFENDABLE FROM AN INVADING OR OCCUPYING FORCE ON THE GROUND WITH LOTS OF MOUNTAINS: THINK *"AFGHANISTAN"* ON GEOGRAPHICAL STEROIDS! -- YOU COULD SAY A *’JUNGLE’* OF MOUNTAINS THAT THE IRANIANS KNOW VERY WELL),

(4) RELATIVELY LOTS OF PEOPLE (MANY, MANY TIMES ISRAEL’S POPULATION), (5) A FAIRLY EDUCATED AND/OR SKILLED POPULATION (WITH MANY ENGINEERS),

(6) AND A TECHNOLOGICAL BASE (PREVIOUSLY IN ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES, AND THE OTHER COUNTRY IS EVEN CAPABLE OF DEVELOPING NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND ACCURATE, FORMIDABLE, LONG-RANGE MISSILES -- IT BETTER IF THE OTHER COUNTRY IS *SMART*!),

ARE *IRAQ* AND *IRAN*.

AND IRAN -- WITH A TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED MILITARY -- HAS NOT BEEN WORN DOWN WITH 10 YEARS OF U.S. AND UK SANCTIONS AND WEEKLY *PRE-*WAR BOMBINGS.

(AND IRAN HAS HAD ANOTHER 10 YEARS OF WATCHING AND SURVEILLING -- STUDYING, STUDYING, STUDYING -- U.S. MILITARY STRATEGY, METHODS & TACTICS -- WHILE IRAN DIGS IN ITS MILITARY FACILITIES EVEN MORE.)

A U.S. WAR WITH IRAN WOULD MAKE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN LOOK LIKE ’WHISTLING THROUGH THE PARK’.

SO THE 1ST U.S.-IRAQ WAR (known as "The Gulf War") WAS TO DEMILITARIZE IRAQ OF ITS HEAVY WEAPONS -- BUT TO LEAVE SADDAM IN POWER, WITH RELATIVELY LIGHT WEAPONS AND MILITARY VEHICLES SO THAT HE COULD ’KEEP THE LID ON’ IRAQ -- AND WHO BETTER THAN A BRUTAL *DICTATOR*?

(The U.S. couldn’t simply just ask for Saddam’s heavy weapons back -- the ones the U.S., the UK, Germany, and other Western countries *sold* to Saddam.)

*ISRAEL* WANTED THE 2ND U.S.-IRAQ WAR SO THAT IRAQ COULD BE DIRECTLY OCCUPIED BY THE U.S. (OF COURSE, THESE DAYS, WHEREVER THE U.S. IS, ISRAEL IS SOMEWHERE ’BEHIND THE CURTAIN’.)

(And, of course, Saddam wasn’t just going to quietly sit there, especially after the U.S. betrayed him, and just let the U.S. take over the place, remove his regime, occupy his country, install *permanent* U.S. military bases, and set up the largest foreign U.S. spy institution -- let’s call it an "embassy" and "diplomatic compound" -- in the world!)

AND, AFTER THAT, ISRAEL WANTS THE U.S. -- WITH OUR BLOOD AND TREASURE AND SUBSEQUENTLY WRECKED ECONOMY -- TO GO START YET ANOTHER WAR WITH IRAN!

*** NOW, GO LOOK UP "THE [ISRAEL’S] CLEAN BREAK PAPER" TO SEE SOMETHING TRULY DIABOLICAL AND BETRAYING! ***

(I’ve described it in brief before, in the comments section of either this, Assange’s, 3rd show thread or the 2nd show thread.)

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JE: "EVERY graduation with western backing turns always into genocide of graduating society, the record is clear."

Well, that’s not true. Look at Japan, or West Germany, or Poland, or the re-unification of all of Germany, or the eventual democratization of South Korea (no thanks to the U.S., but when the U.S. saw the writing on the wall, it backed the democratization), and there are other examples; or even the slow process that Burma is going through recently (the U.S. supports Aung San Suu Kyi); and the U.S. supports "democracy" when it has no other choice (as I said before, often, to different extents, playing both sides), so that the U.S. has "friends" in that new democracy (especially in a country where the U.S. still wants something, like resources, or trade, or UN votes).

The U.S. usually backs dictatorships or authoritarian regimes in small, especially, 3rd World countries, but not necesssarily in larger (landwise *and* populationwise) 3rd World countries with important resources (which includes important trade) and a relatively educated and relatively large middle-class (who constantly demand some meaningful *say* in how they are generally governed!) -- dictatorships in such countries are inherently unstable over time and such instability would constantly threaten or disrupt an important trading partner.

That’s why, after WWII, the U.S. established a "bourgeois democracy" in Japan and West Germany, but installed a decades-long *dictatorship* in South Korea, and when enough South Koreans attained formal, even advanced, education and middle-class economic standing, and South Korea became a very important trading partner with the U.S., Koreans took to the streets in very disruptive protests and demanded an end to dictatorship -- by then, the U.S. wouldn’t even let the dictatorship assassinate the leading opposition and pro-democracy figure -- and South Korea finally got a "bourgeois democracy", like other politically Western countries.

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As for your comments about the Russian population drastically falling. Well, it’s hard for me to judge without examining -- and comparing -- documentation. Which I probably won’t have time to do.

Are you saying that Gorbachev, or Yeltzin, or Putin, or whomever, ordered Russian troops to go out and massacre *tens of millions* of Russians over the years?

Other than that, most Western countries have seen a drastic reduction in at least the population *rate*. Germany population rate has at least flatline and maybe even declined! Most people in Western countries aren’t having 5-12 kids anymore; now, they’re having more like 2.1-2.5 kids (and those are just the people who are even having kids at all!). Women have to work, or women want to go to college or apprenticeship or trade schools, and people don’t live on small farms anymore, and rural populations are shrinking, in economically advanced, social welfare, Western countries parents don’t have to rely on a lot of kids to economically take care of then (the parents) in old age, and most women just plain don’t want to have a *lot* of kids anymore (now many women only want one kid, and one more kid to keep the first kid company). But, poverty in such non-agrarian societies also drives down the birth rate -- and, yes, I know that the transition to *capitalism*, *not* "democracy", created a lot of joblessness and much more severe poverty in Russia and some of the former Soviet states.
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JE: "Kaddafi’s Libya was called “Switzerland of Africa”"

I know a number of progressive Libyans and they would beg to differ on those utopian stats that supposedly existed under Qaddafi -- and they certainly don’t support another dictatorship or an al-Qaeda regime.

AND THE PROGRESSIVE LIBYANS I KNOW ARE A *LOT* MORE HONEST ABOUT THE PLUSES AND MINUSES OF LIBYAN SOCIETY -- BEFORE *OR* AFTER THE REVOLUTION -- THAN THE ANTI-IMPERIALIST WESTERNERS WHO *WORSHIP* QADDAFI ARE ABOUT LIBYAN SOCIETY -- BEFORE *OR* AFTER THE REVOLUTION -- AND *HIM*!

QADDAFI, I REMIND YOU, WHO HAD *TOTALLY EMBRACED* THE WESTERN IMPERIALISTS SO-CALLED "WAR ON TERROR" -- AND WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY KISSED (SOMETIMES *LITERALLY*) AND MADE UP WITH THEM ALL!

HE THOUGHT HE HAD HIS DEAL WITH THE IMPERIALIST DEVILS. BUT THERE’S A *REASON* THEY CALL THE DEVILS THE DEVILS. ULTIMATELY, YOU BETTER HAVE THE *REAL* LOYALTY OF YOUR OWN CITIZENS -- NOT THE *FAKE* LOYALTY OF THE DEVILS.

Besides, if, for example, high standard of living were the point, then we Americans (living in the richest, most technologically advanced, country on earth, with the world’s largest economy) -- especially affluent or rich Americans -- would be happy living under a dictatorship -- and I’m sure that’s not true.

And calling Libya "the Switzerland of Africa" isn’t exactly saying much. Europe has made -- and has kept -- Africa -- a minerally rich continent -- an economically very poor continent. (There are even scholarly and political books written about this, like "How Europe/Colonialism Underdeveloped Africa".)

Finally -- since you’re comparing Qaddafi’s Libya to Switzerland (and making Qaddafi’s Libya look just as envious to even an American) -- the *Swiss* themselves -- obviously with a very high standard of living -- just as obviously wouldn’t want to live under a dictatorship. (Not even people in *Sweden* or, even more, *Lichtenstein* or *Monaco* want to live under a dictatorship.) As I said before, the middle-class, the affluent, and the rich, along with being the formally educated, actually want/demand to have at least somewhat of a meaningful *say* in how they are governed. And actually there was a lot of educated *unemployment* in Qaddafi’s Libya. So, I don’t think that Qaddafi’s Libya was an economic ’La-La Land’: at any rate, I doubt the stories (I’ve heard them all before) of money dripping from every Libyan hand.

So, if the U.S. tried to commit "regime change" in Switzerland, the Swiss people, since they already live in a democracy, and *not* under a dictator, would ALL (or would ALL *want* to) *defend* their country and their government! We wouldn’t see a large body (or even a small body) of Swiss *dissident/opposition* forces (10’s of thousands, or 100’s of thousands, or a half-million to a million Swiss) marching on and/or militarily attacking (with military arms from the U.S.) the national and provincial capitol buildings of Switzerland and ferreting out the prime minister, and all the other ruling politicians, and the military officer staff at gunpoint.

And, somehow, I don’t think that Iraq under Saddam, while it *once* had a comparatively high standard of living, was ever "the Switzerland of the Arab/Muslim Middle East" either -- especially when Saddam *started* a long, bloody, grinding, *hugely wasteful* war with Iran, and Iraq lost about a *million* people. And the U.S. war in Iraq resulted in the deaths of over a million people *before* the U.S. installed the new regime: we don’t know if it’s "democratic" yet (for the time being, unless the Iraqi people can regain control of its U.S.-emplaced, neocolonial goverment, it’s looking more *theocratic* than *democratic*) -- the one in Afghanistan certainly isn’t (and the executive govt and legislative leadership all seem to be corrupt).

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CRITICIZE U.S. SKULLDUGGERY AND ITS COMPLETELY, COLDLY CALCULATING, TOTALLY SELF-INTERESTED, MACHIAVELLIAN BEHAVIOR WHILE _*ALSO*_ CRITICIZING THE U.S.’s ONCE-SUPPORTED DICTATORS.

(--Just like I, an African American, morally reject *both* Obama *and* the racist right-wing white attacks on Obama.)

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Alan Yentob at the BBC May 3, 2012, 16:52
And who cares about the disappearing Jews of Iraq when the media go on and on and on about the Highland Clearances and Irish Potato Famine and the deaths of a few million horrid Arab terrorists since poor little Israel was created back in 1948? There`s NO balance!

Have I mentioned Ann Frank and the Holocaust to you?
Martin Bell May 3, 2012, 16:38
Quite so Mr Kamm!

I spent years at the BBC and in Westminster desperately trying to highlight the lack of democracy and craven pro-zionist drivel talked in both institutions.


How odd then...that (just like lots of other Friends of Israel) I managed to talk the talk without ever delivering a knock out punch?


As my friend Alan Marr might think "There`s something rotten in the State of Israel`s little satellite..... here in the British Isles"!

Perhaps Mr Murdoch and his very close friends of Israel in our Palace of Westminster might be able to hack into the real facts about our "democracy" for us.....if only they had NO intention of doing so!

I think it`s what someone once called being "all in this together".....though naturally you plebs are a lot further into the mire than we Friends of Israel ever intend to be!
OLIVER KAMM May 3, 2012, 16:03
Jim Evans in Worcester Englandwrote on May 3, 2012, 15:45
Yes and several other fellow travellers who are vocal in THEORY..... but never quite manage to land an intellectual knock out punch when it comes to exposing the many hypocrisies and discrepancies between the behaviour of Jewish people in their "promised land" and all the neo-liberal hot air talked by Jews and their various accomplices in the west! I have often wondered how long the Friends of Israel at Westminster and inside the BBC would last if they moved to Israel and tried imposing their smarty pants satirical views about immigration and asylum seekers on the Israelis!! No longer than Jesus survived before the Jews nailed him to a cross ....I suspect!


It`s quite obvious that Chomsky is an anti-semite ......if only for criticising Tony Blair`s brave support for everything that Murdoch and Israel wanted him to do!
Jim Evans in Worcester England May 3, 2012, 15:45
Joey Ayoub from Lebanonwrote on May 3, 2012, 13:30
Assange should interview Noam Chomsky on his show for at least an hour



Yes and several other fellow travellers who are vocal in THEORY..... but never quite manage to land an intellectual knock out punch when it comes to exposing the many hypocrisies and discrepancies between the behaviour of Jewish people in their "promised land" and all the neo-liberal hot air talked by Jews and their various accomplices in the west!

I have often wondered how long the Friends of Israel at Westminster and inside the BBC would last if they moved to Israel and tried imposing their smarty pants satirical views about immigration and asylum seekers on the Israelis!!

No longer than Jesus survived before the Jews nailed him to a cross ....I suspect!
Tunisian Abroad May 3, 2012, 15:45
I am overhelmed by Marzouki’s English, never thought that he speaks English in addition to Arabic and French. He is a source of pride for all Tunisians. Astonished for reading comments accusing Marzouki of lie teller! He is the most spentaneous politician I ever heard!
Assange, the handsome charismatic man, I admire you! Please continue in what you are doing, an intriguing person like you has no choice but to forge ahead!
Joey Ayoub from Lebanon May 3, 2012, 13:30
Assange should interview Noam Chomsky on his show for at least an hour
Jim Evans in Worcester England May 3, 2012, 11:50
And let`s just ask what life would be like in the future if the fascist Zionist Empire had carried on running the world talking rubbish about growth and a NWO run by lunatics like Rothschils and George Soros and the Likud in Israel.....and BBC/Fox and the rest of them..

For a start we are only months away from a RACE WAR in England AND THE REST OF EUROPE ....because of a crazy idea called multi-culturalism!

And how long will the mouthy arrogant homicidal crooks calling themselves Israelites think the seven million Jews in their "promised land" will survive when they have finally managed to bankrupt the entire western world in order to finance their crazy racist "homeland for the Jews" ?

Yes folks.....we can`t go on like this .....because we are facing the possible extinction of civilised western Enlightenment culture ....and quite possibly of mankind as a species .....if Dr Stranglove Netanyahu presses the nuclear button
Jim Evans in Worcester England May 3, 2012, 11:00
And don`t let`s pretend that what I am saying is racism or xenophobia or hate crime of ANY kind....I know EXACTLY where to find THAT sort of fascist discriminatory behaviour here in Britain....at the odious Zionist BBC where "Friends of Israel" like Lord Rothschild and Lord Levy and Lady Porter and Melanie Philips and Lord Sugar and Mary Portass and Simon Shama and Jack Straw et al .....are held up to us as icons of probity and wisdom and our "British" culture....and at the Jewish Chronicle that warns it`s readers that Nat Rothschild is only 48% Jewish..and in the Holocaust/Anne Frank industry that would have us believe no one but the Jews ever suffered at all....etc etc.